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That’s a good coach/instructor. There’s no magic bullet and for everything there’s a time and place, so we’ve got to be wise in our approach as it sounds like you are. Thanks for watching and for the input.

Aaron was talking about how some of the old “rough and tumble” Scots-Irish would grow and file their nails to make them better weapons for eye-gouging. Plus, they practiced trying to actually pluck the eye out and some even kept them as trophies. Nasty stuff, isn’t it? We aren’t suggesting you do that…we’re just reporting some history here lol. Anyway, thanks for watching and for letting us know about the language barrier too. Hope this helped.

Thanks for the input, Mike.

Great input, thanks. And we agree that, though no approach is perfect, that a professional mix of sport-based training (stand up and grappling) alongside the self-defense methodology is best. If a student has never been in the ring, then they have no idea what it’s like to have punches coming at them. Boxing is the best way to “remedy” that. Same thing with ground fighting. If someone has never wrestled nor done BJJ, they’re gonna have a hard time. This approach, we think, avoids the two extremes of pure sport thinking or believing that you can just eye jab everyone and that’s all there is to it. Like I said, great input. We truly believe that there’s no perfect way to train so we need intellectual honesty and professionalism in our approach.

All the guys who say they were in more fights than “I’ve had hot dinners” and so on…I’m wondering, “jeez, could you get along with anyone?” Lol.

Thanks for watching!

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So, punching the groin and gouging the eyes while not - repeat NOT - getting choked out is literally Judo? That’s a preposterous statement. It violates logic in so many ways that I’ll just mention that the law of identity specifies that all things that exist are specific things. Judo doesn’t attack the groin or eyes. Wing Chun does. Therefore, this can’t be Judo. Case closed. Furthermore, an interpretation of Wing Chun (and that’s what Traditional Wing Chun is, by the way) that stubbornly refuses to deal with fighting off the ground, exposes itself as being a false ideology, not a true self-defense system. What are we supposed to do if we’re taken down then? Give up? Be killed? Our interpretative principle stems from the Biu Jee form in all its logical glory! If Saam Bai Fut is in Wing Chun, then tactics to get back to our feet are absolutely Wing Chun. While I sincerely appreciate your input I also hope that you seriously consider the logical and philosophical errors in your thinking that I’ve just exposed. It could very well have life life or death consequences, which is why we take it so seriously here. Best wishes to you and thanks for watching.

​@@JKDandWingChunBE WATER, my friend 👏🏼

@@JKDandWingChun AND NOW...my rebuttal: Since I live in West Philly; I've probably had more fights than you've had hot dinners. But, lets stick to the facts. 1) Brazilian Jujutsu, which I practiced with my Kids when they were young, do indeed practice strikes to the eyes and groin (in self-defense training). Brazilian Jujutsu is a very advanced form of Judo. 2) I studied Red Boat Wing Chun and William Cheung Wing Chun many decades ago. In the three empty hand forms; there was no rolling on the ground (as in Monkey Style or Dog Style). As explained to me by my Cantonese Friends; it's a style for women and/or petite men...who would prefer not to grapple with a larger opponent (such as in Shuai Jow). Since an articulate Black man irritates you, here's my gift: Have the last word. And continue to deceive.

@@mgtowabbott6924 So you are saying that Brazilian Jujitsu is on grappling and Wing Chun is on striking right?

@@mgtowabbott6924​​⁠ ​​⁠ ​​⁠​⁠ ​​⁠ not sure what race has to do with any of this but anyways: 1) you studied wing chun decades ago, so what do you do now? comment on youtube videos about wing chun saying oh that’s not wing chun because you don’t see some identifiable wing chun technique that comes from one of the 3 empty handed forms? 2) now i’m not trying to start a lineage debate or war in the comments because I could care less about wing chun politics -but William Cheung’s forms also look VERY different than almost every other lineage. also his so called “traditional” wing chun is literally just a trademark and nothing more - but why does it look so different than other lineages? he modified it, and that’s not for me or you to say oh that’s not real wing chun or it is real wing chun because at the end of the day neither of us are probably qualified to do so nor is it even necessary. so, back to your statement about how it’s not wing chun because in the 3 forms you aren’t rolling around on the ground tells me that you pretty much don’t know what the forms are for. simply put they allow you to practice your techniques, train your stance, body, mind, and etc. Siu Nim Tao builds that foundation, Chum Kiu builds on that further by adding steps and kicks, and Biu Jee adds even more options for striking as well as teaching you center line recovery for less than ideal positions. it’s not just CHOREOGRAPHY. just because we stand in the Yee Jee Kim Yeung Ma in Siu Nim Tau doesn’t mean we’d fight that way, and matter of fact you should NEVER fight in that stance but that’s besides the point. 3)Yes, Shuai Jiao is chinese wrestling and believe it or not has its focus on wrestling. if that’s what your looking for then that’s great, but in my opinion, the beauty of wing chun is that it’s a self defense system for EVERYONE. also notice how you said BJJ practices eye and ground strikes BUT in self defense training (exactly how you put it)… that’s what we do in wing chun is it not? 4) i’d recommend to stop thinking in terms of oh that’s wing chun or oh that’s BJJ and just focus on the shit that works for YOU. call it rex kwon do if you want idc but like others said in the comments does it really matter what you use? whether its on the ground or standing? no because as long as it works thats what matters, NOT the style. 5) want to see some more good examples of wing chun used in ground fighting? look up erik paulson and kevin lee, they did a video together where erik uses wing chun concepts (that you learn and build up through forms and other training of course because the forms are not fighting) on the ground. watch that and tell me wing chun doesn’t have ground fighting - now not everyone trains that way and that’s one issue with wing chun today but it doesn’t mean we don’t have it, it’s just neglected. 6) i’ll end it here but someone else said it best in a different comment. if you’ve really been in so many fights making you this superior fighter or whatever then you truly are who we train to defend ourselves against because as martial artists we should ALWAYS look to avoid fights. sorry for any poor grammar or if i sound all over the place im writing this at 6 am while i can’t sleep but i just wanted to give my input as well.

we respectfully disagree with the approach to Wing Chun that it's a fixed system of commandments. That's idolatry, by the way. On the contrary, we consider it a systematic methodology of structural truth and tactical principles to be used by the self-defender, not the other way around. As proof of this interpretation I give you the Biu Jee form...especially the Saam Bai Fut section. This interpretation allows us to both honor our rich history (tradition) without sacrificing our very lives to it. Thanks for your input and for the opportunity to address a very serious misinterpretation and best wishes to you.

​@@JKDandWingChun it's a good video. The techniques are valid, but it is all just fighting on the ground. Calling it "Wing Chun" doesn't make it any different to the various other labels that describe exactly the same thing. Judo newaza includes these things, although men tussling on the ground existed before judo. In recent times, BJJ chose to focus on the ground work and prompted a revival of interest in submission wrestling more broadly. Adding a groin punch isn't a magic difference that elevates raises ground fighting to Wing Chun staus. It is what many humans would do fairly instinctively. If JKD was about taking what works (because fighting is just fighting), why label this video "Wing Chun" other than to increase views or receive more comments like this one?

He’s an amazing martial artist, isn’t he?

Utter nonsense. Aaron is showing how to NOT make huge mistakes in the first part all WHILE attacking the eyes and groin. If BJJ starts eye-gouging and chain punching the groin you might be right. But, anyway, I know this is a tough subject for many. But knowing how to both defend takedowns AND fight if we’re taken down is commensurate with the Wing Chun system. A combat science that doesn’t address the elephant in the room is no such thing. It’s a combat fantasy. We want our students to be ready…and as safe/prepared as possible. To that end, we believe that the Wing Chun principles (not to mention the Biu Jee form itself) all lead us to a great diversity of application that meets the demands of modern self-defense. So, no. It’s not essentially BJJ anymore than throwing a quick straight punch makes Wing Chun essentially boxing. Or using a knee makes it Muay Thai. Thanks for watching and I truly hope this helped not only yours but all of our viewers’ understanding.

if you look better wing chun way of ground fight is defense and disengage and get up,no ground fighting much as it isn t suitable for streets much,because of asphalt and other factors....

@@JKDandWingChun Thanks for the video. Certain things that are illegal in both BJJ and MMA tournaments are really game changers in ground fighting.

@@UltraMagnus3000 In both JKD and Wing Chun are taught that ground fighting should be avoided if possible. Fighting on the ground should be only a last resort

@@ov1994 agreed,it s because the core of jkd is wing chun

Awesome! Thank you!

Great to hear from ya! Say hello to everyone up there for me.

@@JKDandWingChun Will do!